On a positive note, this discussion will surley get me to re-experiment with the L2 again after a couple years of "habit". If it competes with the levels of their favorite CD's they much prefer to have an overall mix 3 or 4 db louder with an occasional 4 or 5 db flash, than with a overall mix 3 or 4 db lower.even if it sounds cleaner staying within a 1 or 1.5 db limit flash. I am NOT suggesting that having a mix swimming in a sea of 4 or 5 db limiting is "transparent", no.but for the occasional dynamic snare hit or something picked up by the overheads or room mics.Ĭlients are very happy to get a loud mix. Like all of us when we get a new toy, I experimented with the L2 quite a bit.cranking it to see how crappy it would sound at ridiculus settings, and then listening while backing it off to see at what point I wasn't hearing it work. The thing I like best about the L2 hardware, is not having to be constantly watching the Masterlink (or in the past DAT) meters for clipping.Īlways such a bummer to redo a mix because it clipped. Nothing wrong with someone liking it though. I did compare and It really hurt my mixes. Ive used it for years until a famous engineer said to listen and compare a mix with it and without it. I didnt mean to sound harsh just wanted to express my thoughts. Do a comparison and you should be able to hear the difference. 1-1.5 db is all I would use, anymore doesnt sound too good to my ears. You can hear it working at 3db and that is too much. it is an easy to set, great brick wall limiter. I find that if you leave the release in auto (waves recommends this) and adjust the far left input gain high enough to where the far right gain reduction meter shows no more than 4 or 5 (less is better of course) on transient peaks, you really wont hear it working, but you will have a louder better sounding mix. Just a quick set up sugestion if I may.begin by turning the center output cieling to -00.2, just to be safe. I am sure that you will like the hardware L2.
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YES.the analog and digital outputs will all work at the same time, but the digital outs don't work with everything that has a digital in, just the pro stuff. You don't "select" the outputs, only the input feeding the L2. I forgot all about that, until I just tried to test it out to give you a correct all came back to me now. The AES and the coaxial outs work fine without any problems with my Masterlink, but not with the "consumer" CD burner or DAT. After calling a few at Waves customer service, they said I would need to use the aes outputs, and that if I got a converter aes to coaxial it "should" didn't. When I first bought the L2 hardware new, I tried to use the coaxial outputs to a sony DAT and to a pioneer cd burner, and it wouldn't work for either one. I will try and save you some possible frustration here. Thanks guys ,I justy ordered 1 second hand for a good price, the way I was going to set it up was by using my Apogee's as the AD section and go digi into the L2.ĭoes the L2 send the input signal to all the outputs (xlr,aes/ebu,spdif) or just the selected ones? I hav'nt recieved it yet. The point is to not turn everything we touch into poop.
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The point is that too many people think that now that they know how to clip, they can master. An 1176 is great but it probably wouldn't be my first choice across the mix. Every song is different and all of these limiters sound different. Again, a nice tool, but not the Holy Grail. I think I've also printed a couple of songs using Lavry Digital Saturation. Sometimes there is a touch of it, sometimes it's L2, 元, 元 Multi, Sony Limiter, or the TC 6000 Brickwall. I can honestly say that it depends on the song. That's when I think we're just being irresponsible.įor the record, I haven't dumped L2 for clipping.
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When vocals start to audibly crap out, you've lost me. The goal being to only allow drum transients to hit.
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Based on what I've heard, I'm more prone to use a touch of digital clipping if needed - and not all seems to be created equal. Honestly, I've tried clipping the converters as an experiment - tried both the Lavry and the Apogee Rosetta 200 - but so far haven't really gone there. You mean like clipping a Lavry Gold ADC Bob? -)īTW Bob, cool move to score the "" handle.Ĭheersha! Actually, I monitor with the Lavry Gold DA924 but the conversion to and from my analog rack is currently Lavry Blue (great stuff in it's own right).